<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This is all incredibly helpful, not just for my conversation with TI, but maybe more for creating mutually beneficial strategies for large corporations in general (Radio Shack?).<div><br></div><div>I don't think turning around a battleship is possible, and it might not be beneficial in the long run for the OSH community. I'd like to see TI be wildly successful with their battleship, but maybe drop a couple hovercrafts into the water that are well-resourced and serve our needs. I'd be very happy with 1% of a $14B company devoted to open hardware.</div><div><br></div><div>Here's where I make some strange analogy to battleships and torpedo-weilding hovercrafts piloted by desert penguins, but I'm not going to go there.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>-Kipp<br><div><br><div><div>On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Andrew Fisher wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I'll chime in on that one as well as I've hit the same point as CTP I don't have enough time left for "yet-another-whatever" unless it completely addresses a hole in how I'm doing something so I overcome inertia. TI don't seem to deeply engage or interact with the OSH community and see that their interactions need to be based around flogging a particular product. If they took a more engaged stance then sales and product would come as they'd see the issues that actually exist and then design to fill the hole...<div>
<br></div><div>Great to meet all of you at my first Sketching as well!!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Andrew<br clear="all"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Andrew Fisher</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:36 AM, Christopher T Palmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ctp@ctpdesign.com" target="_blank">ctp@ctpdesign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Not to overstate the obvious (re Alicia's response), but are we not
talking about the electronics manufacturing equivalent of asking an oil
tanker to do 180 degree U-turn? Is there respect at the corporate level
for open source hardware? The whole notion has to give them willies down
to their very bones. I know that there are people in these companies who
get OSH, but they aren't always (ever?) the people in charge.<br><br>
For my part I had sent my earlier reply to just Kipp, but I'll share it
with everyone here. This is the case for me, and I thought I was the only
one until I started hearing this from my colleagues more and more. I
don't want to learn yet-another-language, in yet-another-IDE, on
yet-another-tool. I simply don't have the time/brainspace/passion for it.
I have stuff to do, art to build, students to teach. And when I do learn
a new language (even though I really don't want to) it'll be something
that takes me in an exciting direction I can't already go - for instance
Processing, or MAX/MSP, or some such. I know people who love love love to
dig into a new programming language, but I am meeting more and more of us
who just don't. <br><br>
What I have no idea about is if there's enough people like me to cause a
shift, or if there will always be plenty of the other clamoring for the
ever new.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br>
CTP<br></font></span><br>
ps - SO AWESOME to see you all in Portland last weekend!<div class="im"><br><br>
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At 11:12 AM 7/24/2012, alicia wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="im">Second, they've been very
reluctant to admit that the MSP430 Launchpad took any inspiration from
Arduino, although some engineers who worked on the product will tell you
exactly that, the company as a whole denies it and treats Arduino as a 4
letter word.<br>
<br><br>
<br></div><div class="im">
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Kipp Bradford
<<a href="mailto:kb@kippworks.com" target="_blank">kb@kippworks.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<dd>I have an opportunity this Thursday to tell the TI senior
microcontroller folks how to better serve our community. The 900 people
in the room will include the Pandaboard folks, BeagleBoard folks, MSP430
team, C2000 team, and more.<br><br>
</dd><dd>What would you like to see from TI?<br>
</dd><dd>What do they do well for us? What could they do better?<br><br>
</dd><dd>Send me an email and I'll incorporate your interests into my
talk!<br><br>
</dd><dd>Thanks,<br>
</dd><dd>-Kipp<br>
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